Taking A Child's Life vs Giving a Child A Life

64 million babies have lost their lives since 1963. While there's no secret I am 'Pro Life' and anti-abortion, I have historically stayed away from the issue. There were enough positions on the matter. I pursue it today. In this interview with Dr. William Lile, from Pensacola, Florida, I see a great initiative to save lives through his non-profit http://www.ProLifeDoc.com. Join and take the one-day course on pregnancy stages. He and his team have expanded worldwide, working primarily in the USA to help women who are scared and alone in the pregnancy. The abortion pill is the big abortion issue since the 'Dobbs' decision. Enjoy Dr. Bill Lile's story and his outreach to help a woman give a baby the chance to survive. We discuss how close it was in narrowly defeating Amendment 4 on the Florida ballot.

Taking A Child’s Life vs Giving a Child A Life

on the GrassRoots TruthCast with Gene Valentino

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• Originally Recorded on June 3, 2024
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Taking A Child's Life vs Giving a Child A Life

Epic Voice Giuy: [00:00:00] With breaking news and political commentary from a public servant, serial entrepreneur, community leader, philanthropist, and American patriot, and a darn nice guy, it's time for the Grassroots Truth cast and your host, gene Valentino.

Gene Valentino: Gene Valentino. Welcome to another episode of Gene Valentino's. GrassRoots TruthCast. You know we do these episode right here in our airplane hang oh a few times during the year when we have special guests in and around the area that can find their way. Here I have Dr. William Lyle with me today, OB Obstetrics and Gynecology, and we're gonna do a deep dive on something that's to over the years.

The abortion, or more specifically, the right to life. The right to life issue at the local, state and federal levels. We've got just the guy to get into this [00:01:00] conversation with you, with me. He's he's taken a, an approach, which is why I've asked him to come here today. It's not only a science, medically based approach, but we're gonna be talking about the spirituality of the issue as well.

You know, science is a funny thing, you know, where does the science and objectivity, the the, the scientific method of issues in research, design, development, an application of the, of the science? Where does it leave off and where does spirituality begin? 

Is there a difference? Is there an overlap? 

We're gonna find out about today's Gen Z crowd and the rest of America's opinion, especially since the Dobbs decision on this thing we've called right to life and how we've handled it.

We've got a great guy who's gonna be with us 25 years in obstetrics in gynecology, in Florida, in Pensa.[00:02:00] 

Right. 

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Gene Valentino: Thank you for joining me. I'm so glad to have you here in the man cave, the hangar. This is where we have some real great discussions and folks, Dr. Lyle comes to us with a background and an i, I think the issue more is to do with approach on how we deal with right to life, uh uh, locally and under the federal as.

You know, I remember running for Congress and I remember being in the audience when you were being awarded a, a wonderful honor. I think it was at Marcus Point Baptist Church.

Dr. William Lile: It was actually all of Baptist Church. All of Baptist church. The God Governor Award, an annual award here in Pensacola region.

Yeah. And this is where you were honored by the community. For your work, it was the [00:04:00] honoring of your work in a sensitive area nonetheless. But you were marrying up the science of life to the spirituality of life. Can you explain that? Well, when it comes to the issue of abortion, I mean, this is a spiritual battle.

There are in the United States over 1.1 million abortions each year, which is up. Since the Dobbs decision three years ago, but in Genesis 1 26, God said, let us make man in our image. Well, when are we created in that image of God? We're creating the image of God at the moment of conception. Even the Declaration of Independence, as we hold these truths to be self-evident, that.

All men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator, and that's a capital C creator with certain inalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So life is precious. This is a governmental issue. This [00:05:00] is a spiritual issue. This is a. And it really comes down to patient rights, not just the moms as the patients, but the babies in the womb as patients as well.

Gene Valentino: So when I was running for Congress and you were interviewing me, I remember getting challenged with a very serious question. The question had to do with. Abortion and what my take was on it. Of course, as a politician, I was looking for your support. But the truth of the matter is our paths were aligned.

When does life begin? To me, life begins unequivoc unequivocally at the point of conception. The moment those cells come together and it being.

I know people have a tendency to get in the way of the obvious, and it to me, [00:06:00] that simple narrative, that indisputable narrative is something that you've been dealing with on several fronts. I'll save the folks some time. One of the things I found very interesting.

From occurring at that location? Yes. When did that happen?

Dr. William Lile: It was 1999, and I had just finished my residency training with University of Florida, and a practice that was available was the largest abortion clinic here on the Florida Gulf Coast. So we took over that practice in 1999. We told all the staff to.

Sign AE two restrictive covenant where he medicine for the next two years In the Tri-County day one, we stopped the, and to this day from the border with Alabama. Until you get to Tallahassee, Florida, there's [00:07:00] still not one single abortion clinic here on the pan. Now, you were doing that during the period of the 25 or so years.

You were at the Ascension Sacred Heart operation. So you were serving in obstetrics and gynecology at the same time over there. Correct. That was where my residency training was. And at the time when we took over the practice in the state of Florida, you could legally perform an abortion up to 24 weeks gestation and legislatively, we brought that down to 15 and then the heartbeat.

But the irony was we had babies that were surviving. In our nicu, after delivering at 23 weeks gestation, we had penalties for just disturbing pre-born sea turtle eggs over on Pensacola Beach where you could spend a year in jail and you could be fined a hundred thousand dollars for disturbing sea turtles.

Still in their, she over on Pensacola Beach. So how do we have more protection for sea turtles on the beach? In the womb, which could [00:08:00] survive in our nicu. So that's why we active stand up for the in the womb.

Gene Valentino: And during your base of, as a gynecologist to the masses, you were over the years, you were bringing in what, five babies?

I.

What do you find most difficult in the process of dealing with a young pregnant person who is troubled with the abortion? What's going on in your world? Try. When times they might.

Is lead for and the truth will set free. So we wanna, in the MB let hear a [00:09:00] organizations right here in our area where they. Provide housing, help, provide healthcare help provide training for what it means to be a mom and a dad. Support them through this. And that's a real vital part as far as the education, but also on the inside where it's just.

One line versus two lines on a pregnancy test. This is a baby, a new creation that if they give that baby time to grow and develop though, that child will give them more joy than anything else they'll experience in life. I remember watching some of your films that you've put out and how and.

And come to the point of re realization that even though it was emotional and difficult for the young mother at the time it, instead of instead of boarding, she gave up the child [00:10:00] for a home a good homestead elsewhere and it connect.

Yeah, I tempted an abortion, but I didn't. How many of those women acquiesce

versus. We don't mom who will seek that option. You know, it's really easy just to choose the abortion option, and it's a little bit more challenging. I've had moms who say, well, I would never, ever adopt my baby to another family, but meanwhile, they're considering aborting that baby. So give that baby life the minority.

Of moms who are thinking of abortion will actually choose the adoption and pregnancy resource centers and social services makes it really easy to get into that system. We have over 1.5 million couples who are looking to adopt a child who either [00:11:00] already have some children and want more, join their lives, or they, for whatever reason, have not been able to conceive on their own and amazing parents, but adopt.

States, states, it's incredibly expensive. There's so much paperwork and hoops to have to jump through. That's why so many people will look towards other countries because it's such a challenge to adopt a child here in the United States. That seems contrary to where we are with immigration and citizenship today, where it would be so easy to take.

An abandoned child of any type and bring them into your loving household. Tell me about the, you kind of drift general practice every day and you've gone off on your own with a mission and a special commitment. What happened? What did you what? What did you do? Well, it was actually on a Sunday, right after we had taken over the practice where I finally had my own key to the office nine.

And even though we [00:12:00] seen the exam rooms, the waiting room, the office, the ultrasound room. We had never gone upstairs during our tours. And the upstairs is where? Upstairs. Upstairs, there's the second floor of this particular clinic. And that was where all the surgical abortions were performed. Oh. So on a Sunday after church, I actually went upstairs.

I went upstairs and there was the, the exam table, there was the abortion machine. All the instruments all just lined up and waiting for the next Monday's abortions. And. Thousands and thousands of months and going up that same set of stairs with a baby on the inside and then turned the same corner. I had just turned and spent 20, 30 minutes up there, had a procedure, done an abortion, and then walked down the same set of stairs without that baby on the inside.

So we did a pre, I mean, we pen all around. Thousands and even tens of [00:13:00] thousands of babies lost their lives in that clinic. So we did a presentation at my church, which was very well received, and another church. And then before we know we were getting requests from churches all over the country, pregnancy resource centers, interviews with Fox and friends.

And working with Focus on the family, CareNet Heartbeat International. And over the years we got so busy and that was our real focus. I mean, everything I'd wanted to accomplish professionally, I'd already checked those boxes, delivered lots of babies, robotic surgery, laparoscopic department, vice chair, department chair.

So what's next? So just two days ago, we.

Not for-profit. You know, pro-life ministry. And as of two days ago, we're full-time ministry trying to share these truths with churches and pregnancy centers, universities, colleges, all across the land to [00:14:00] educate people on the issue of life, but also to save the lives of these patients on the inside. And we're broadcasting, I should say, recording during July of 2025 and right during the decision making process of the big beautiful Bill.

We have a big, beautiful decision that you've made to help life progress in that way. You you talk about these different exposures.

Relationship with news. I'm watching a profile, a guy named Dr. William produced on special episode. Well, in fact, he's just a few miles away here locally and get to have you well.

The level of [00:15:00] science. We're gonna run a clip in a second. This clip is one of about five that Dr. Lyle has put together, and it's part of your organization you can talk about in a minute. But this was the surgery on heart issues inside the fetus.

Gall. 12 inch long incision. You're in the hospital for a week, 10 days. Now with technology, we can do it laparoscopically, and you are home that afternoon in the line at Chick-fil-A for lunch after surgery. We're now just not just using ultrasound to diagnose babies in the womb, but we're actually to the point where we can operate.

Surgically correct these babies in the womb. The example we're gonna show is performed at the Cleveland Clinic. The Cleveland Clinic had been referred to patients at about 25 weeks that had a tumor [00:16:00] growing in the baby's heart. Oh, right. And the tumor's called a teratoma. And it was growing so quickly that they estimated the baby was gonna die in one to two if.

Was to deliver the baby at 27 weeks, perform open heart surgery, but now we have a one pound preemie that's struggling to ventilate and breathe on the outside. So the team thought that with technology and with their skills, they had a team which could perform that surgery. While the baby was on the inside and that happened is happening that I actually performed that it was successful.

The baby's four years old now and doing great. So, wow. We'll show the animation next and you can see how not only can we diagnose, but we can treat and even cure babies in the, how long is this for? It's about 70 seconds video.

[00:17:00] A three centimeter heart tumor or cardiac teratoma was diagnosed on a baby at 26 weeks gestation. It was growing so quickly that it would kill the baby in one to two weeks. Doctors made the decision that the best intervention was to treat the baby. Womb. The mother had an epidural. The mother was comfortable, and an incision was made in the skin of the mother.

A second incision was made in the uterus and the hands of the baby were then brought out so that a pediatric. Anesthesiologist could start an IV in the baby's hand, so the baby would receive pain medicine and a paralytic. Once the baby was comfortable, the cardiothoracic team made an incision in the baby's chest.

The tumor was removed Almost immediately. The baby's heart started to pump and function normally. The incision in the chest was then closed. The hands were tucked in, the IV removed. The uterus was closed. The skin was closed at 27 weeks [00:18:00] gestation. A healthy baby was delivered 10 weeks later at 37 weeks gestation.

Gene Valentino: We just saw a video. Excellent. Production. What's your take on how this is received? Well, it's been very well received. A lot of people know that obstetrics has changed over the years, but they don't know how much it's changed.

Even primary care doctors, family practice, doctors, internal medicine, they see what we are now doing and how we're treating the preborn in the womb as patients, and they're amazed. One of the significant things on that animation is that the baby actually had its own anesthesiologist, its own. And the anesthesiologist was caring.

Make sure the baby had fentanyl, a pain medication. Make sure the baby didn't move around, so the baby was also receiving a paralytic called If I'm performing a hysterectomy, does the mom get an anesthesia team? Absolutely. [00:19:00] Does the uterus get a second anesthesia team? No, because if the mom is comfortable, we don't have to worry about the uterus.

But when it comes to perform fetal procedures, this is a completely different person, a completely different neurologic system. So when we're performing surgeries. On the inside of the womb, they actually get their own anesthesiologist that they're comfortable as well. Patient's, a person, no matter how small, and we have advances almost every month on something new that can be done to improve the quality of life of a baby, but also to save that baby's life.

Human, no matter how small. Absolutely. That's

ob. What is.

In deliver a

on [00:20:00] changes of our eight hour curriculum, provide tools for other people, but just between now and end of the year, another six months, we'll spend have over. 40 events out of state speaking at different pregnancy centers, churches and universities around the country. We're also involved politically because politics is how we govern ourselves.

So we're active with the National Association of Christian Lawmakers, helping them develop. And sample legislation for them to take back to their states. Now you were in Washington, DC recently on just that. Correct? We were in, in Washington DC working with the NACL, actually attending the first meeting of the Presidentially appointed Religious Liberty Commission, which is 10 different commissioners by president.

Issues need to be protected. What liberty and religious liberties need to be protected? How is religious liberty being [00:21:00] threatened in the country? So there's about a dozen people including Jewish members. Cardinal Anthony Dolan was there.

Are a nationally known come together. Now, this is part of Donald Trump's decision. This is probably an inquiry from him to you trying to figure out how to take of, dobbs decision now that things are coming back, some sense of normalcy, it should be looked. It would, that the Dobbs decision, the at the White House with Donald Trump gives you some, some of a.

And this.

With the overturning a Roe versus Wade, the issue of abortion was return back to the states and a lot of states [00:22:00] already had trigger laws that made it, you know, immediately in effect that we're gonna protect our youngest patients, our youngest babies that are still in the womb. But sadly, over the three years since the DOMS decision, the number of reported abortions in the United States has actually gone up.

It was about nine plus. Do.

Is the.

What's the abortion pill about? How does it work? Sure. Well, when the abortion pill is developed, it was developed to kill a baby in the womb up to 10 weeks gestation, and it'll do that 98% of the time. It's not only available in doctors' offices and abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood, it's actually in a lot of states now available mail India.

It's [00:23:00] dangerous for babies, but it's also dangerous for the moms because, because the of the side effects. When the abortion pill was originally approved the, we were told that the serious adverse event react rate was less than 0.5%. A large study, which was. Women, which was 28 times as large as the sum of all the approval studies.

The large eight 65,000 women study actually showed that it was not 0.5%, it was actually 10.9 that suffered not just a mild not. They didn't count those. These were severe and life-threatening reactions. So of the eight 65,000 women that were studied, who had taken the abortion pill, 94,000 of them had a serious or life-threatening reaction.

Like, like a stroke, like paralysis. These were, they were over 40,000 women. Who had [00:24:00] to go to the er. There were over 24,000 women that had hemorrhage. There were over 22,000 women that had to have an additional surgery. There were 12,000 cases of either infection or sepsis, and then there were over 3000 cases of women who had an ectopic or a tubal pregnancy

ect.

You know, 90,000 severe or life-threatening side effects. So when you hear the abortion pill is as safe as Tylenol, no, it's not. Even when Tylenol is taken properly, the risk of having a an adverse reaction is extremely, extremely rare and low. But with the abortion pill, up to 11% of those women will have a severe or life-threatening reaction.

But it's a loud drug. Correct. But we have banned drugs before here in the United States. Vioxx was a very, yeah. [00:25:00] Popular anti-inflammatory medication. Then we learned it was causing serious damage to the.

The abortion pill, especially with its minimal restrictions and, and safeguards is dangerous for women. 11% are having serious adverse reactions that is 22 times higher than what we had originally been told. So 22% or 22 times? 22 times. Some people still don't understand the statistics. If I'm in the.

That's a 22% increase. If I take that same Snickers bar and I scan it and it comes back 20, I like Snickers, but I don't like 20 Snickers. Yeah. I'm not gonna get that snick. So the risk to women as far as severe or life threatening [00:26:00] reaction is 22. Higher than women have been told. So yes, the DA yes RFK have an obligation to look at this study, look at the data, look at the size of it, look at the number of women who are being harmed, and there's gonna be a follow up study of the number of women who are actually dying from the abortion Pill.

The abortion pill. Folks, let's break away for a minute or two.

This is the moment of conception, the precise moment when we are all created in the image of God. And the mom's body is perfectly designed for this task. One uterus, two fallopian tubes, two ovaries, all working together not only to create new life, but to support new life. A dominant follicle forms on the surface of the ovary and an egg with all the mom's [00:27:00] genetic material is released.

Picked up by the FIA of the fallopian tube to begin the three day journey to the uterus. If the timing is perfect, one of the dad's 200 million sperm will unite and enter into the egg creating a zygote. This is the moment of conception. This one cell is genetically unique from the mom, the dad, and the other.

8 billion people on the planet Cell division begins, and the journey down the fallopian tube continues to the uterus, but the baby needs support. Baby needs oxygen, baby needs nutrition. The baby, even at this tiny phase, will implant in the lining of the uterus called the endometrium. That sends a signal to the mom that she is pregnant and we need to not have a menstrual cycle and we need to support this pregnancy, which at 10 weeks is one.

Billion cells that stay on signal is from progesterone. Progesterone is the progestational [00:28:00] steroid hormone released by the corpus lium, the same area where the egg ovulated, the receptors are turned. On to continue the pregnancy. Everything that's good about a pregnancy is because of progesterone. But say the mom is scared, say she gets bad advice, say she's even forced to take the abortion pill.

She swallows the abortion pill. It goes down to the stomach. It dissolves. It's absorbed by the bloodstream. The progesterone turned on the signal, the abortion pill turned off the signal and the abortion pill will actually begin to displace the progesterone on the pregnancy and on the placenta, and it begins to turn off.

Life. Life is turned off and the placenta starts to separate and die. But what if the mom has a change of heart? What if she wants to continue this pregnancy? Well, we can reverse the effect of the abortion pill in a very simple way. We give. The mom more progesterone. [00:29:00] Progesterone is a hormone that we used in other aspects of pregnancy, and it turns on the signal and it supports life.

The progesterone is dissolved in the stomach, it's absorbed into the bloodstream. The. Progesterone then goes to the uterus, it displaces all of the abortion pill and actually turns the signal back to on and continues this pregnancy. We have a 72 hour window where we can safely reverse the effect of the abortion pill.

And it is a miracle. It is redemption. It is buying back the life of that baby. Moms are thrilled and obviously the babies are thrilled. It is the story of being redeemed and saving life.

Gene Valentino: \ Wow. That.[00:30:00] 

I, I think when it's broken down into simple terms and it's easy to understand whether we get into the male female issue and the authority over the right to life or their right to choose is somewhat muted by so much obvious evidence on what's happening here. When you were in DC with your group, did you discuss the abortion pill?

We did. Because of the dangers of the abortion pill and the prevalence of the abortion pill. There are over 7,000 abortions performed each year in the United States with the abortion pill. Seven 7,000. I mean, there's 1.1 million reported abortions, but there's over 7,000 reported abortions with the. 1 million.

I mean, when we look at Planned Parenthood performing over four abortions each year, we actually had the world's largest diaper drive when we were in [00:31:00] DC where we raised enough money and we had a pro-life diaper company bring 400 thousands from to two years of age, and we had them on pallets right there in front, the building.

These diapers represents one baby that will not be born because of Planned Parenthood. So we were working to defund Planned Parenthood to make sure that they don't get the 700 or $800 million out my taxpayer dollars each month that they do not provide healthcare. The services that they provide are primarily for abortion, and they don't do a good job at that.

This is very interesting folks. We're talking with Dr. William Lyle. He's a neighbor of mine here in Pensacola, Florida. He's been in obstetrics and gynecology for over 25 years and more recently, most recently has morphed into a, a Christian-based god-fearing approach to [00:32:00] helping women in their early stages.

Pregnancy deal with their pregnancy in a very positive way. You've got a, a not-for-profit group, you've got a website. Let's throw your pitch out there, who you're, how they can reach you and how they can help. Sure. Well, the organization that we establish is a 5 0 1. It's called Prolife Doc. We have a curriculum.

It's eight hours long in length. You can order the curriculum online if you wanna understand how we develop the curriculum so that the pro-life community would be better equipped and have better tools. We discuss everything from how an abortion is done, what happens at the moment of conception.

Abortion pill reversal, but then also how we treat the babies as patients on inside while they're in the womb, who performing not only open heart surgery like we discussed, we're doing brain surgery, spina bifida, corrective surgery, laser vascular surgery. [00:33:00] Cardiac medications to correct an arrhythmia.

They're our patient's, a person matter how small. So we wanted to provide these tools that you can use with your family, friends, and coworkers. Not just that you're pro-life, but why you are pro-life. We wanted to teach true apologetics and sometimes

loud. Is the most intimidating wins we wanna use True science. Science was created by God, and we'll use true science. It's gonna defend God's preborn. Sometimes when we look at our scientists, they've recently lost their ever loving minds. But true science, true biology was created by God, so will always enforce and support.

Godly principles and that can be available through prolife org, pro-life org. And then they can contact you there as well. Sure. They can email me and I can answer questions. [00:34:00] Yeah. And I'd be happy to come and speak at your, you know, center or at your church or at your university. Doctor, how far, how, how widespread is the organization now?

Oh, we speak all throughout the country, but we've actually spoken recently in Ireland, in Israel. I mean, we are taking this message worldwide. We look at abortion in the United States and we mourn the 64 million babies that have lost their lives since 1973 in the United States. But there're probably over 1 billion babies worldwide, which have lost their lives.

Which is a higher percentage than here in the States. Correct. Yeah. Wow. This sets sits against a backdrop of some of the demonic initiatives of fellow politicians, not locally, but worldwide, that are in tune with population control. Correct. I mean, are aggressively looking at population control refrain from using any specific names here now, [00:35:00] but.

Calling out and harvesting, if you will. The, the population. It's good people. It's bad people. Population control. Yeah. And it's terrible with it. In fact, the abortion pill was created by a gifted French biochemist and endocrinologist named Balu, and he specifically developed the.

Well, image of Genesis

is of. Planned Parenthood Florida have a hatred for God foundation on created his image at that moment of. Why they hate Donald Trump. [00:36:00] So, absolutely, absolutely. He knows his unbridled conviction, his commitment towards the right to life, pro-life. And so what did you say earlier that he had actually dedicated part of the White House or, or Yeah, the office in the West Wing, the office that used to be part of the DEI leadership.

Gone, its place is now pastor Paula White and the religious commission is now meeting in the west wing of the White House. Donald Trump is setting a priority where DEI was evil. It was just wrong. It made no sense. It was not good for America, not. Represent the will the people in the United States. But now we have an office that is here to defend our religious liberty, to defend our religious freedoms, to defend the principles on which this nation was founded on.

And that's right in the west wing of the White House. A huge change. Where do you see your, cause I should say your, in your effort [00:37:00] going not politically from. The political, but also from your social service not for profit side. How do you see your organization growing and is it done with facilitation from government help or do you see it as two separate pathways?

Our organization doesn't receive any government funding whatsoever. We just have a lot of people who support our messaging. We're really in the same position in where slavery. Alabama, but not in New Jersey. Well, if slavery was wrong in evil in New Jersey, then slavery is wrong in evil in Alabama. So if abortion is legal in New Jersey and is banned in Alabama, it's because it's evil.

So we really can't pick and choose. When it came to slavery, we divided. This Nation. Nation, we actually had brother against brother, father against uncle. Yeah. And [00:38:00] it was, you know, amazingly traumatic and catastrophic. We went to war over civil war. I don't want the issue of abortion to degenerate where we have to go to war over this, but if it's.

Something is evil and wrong in one state, then something and wrong in another state.

Prolife com and look for some places. And can I, can I respond to a, a portal on the website that allows me to get into action and get to work? Oh, we have lots of different opportunities. What are, what are the opportunities? Opportunities first, politics is local. All politics starts off locally. Yeah.

Get involved with your local church and with your local pregnancy resource center. There are almost 4,000 pregnancy resource centers, coast to [00:39:00] coast here in the United States. I guarantee there's one right within your community. Get involved with them. See how you can volunteer and meet the needs of these moms and dads and defend the babies, but also support them financially.

So.

Be a battle where we have politicians and obstetricians speaking from podiums. This is a spiritual battle, so it, our pastor and rabbis declaring this truth from the pulpit of their congregations not. Politicians from their podiums. I see a great merger between your cause and many of the church groups just in the Escambia County, Santa Rosa County region of the Panhandle of Florida.

My words, you're talking about 500,000 people between the two counties and I dunno. Close to maybe two or 300 churches. So we're very church oriented [00:40:00] in this region. But I mean, there's a lot of folks that would be conduits for the mission. Absolutely. In fact, our pastors, when our post-election data came through, it was our pastors that really.

Defeated amendment number four here in Florida. Yeah, last November, amendment number four, even though we had gone to a heartbeat law, protecting the babies in the womb at six weeks, we had a constitutional amendment, which was put on by Planned Parenthood in the A CLU of Florida. They spent over a hundred million dollars, and so we started to fight against that.

August 9th of last year, we offered luncheon. We invited pastors, priests, and rabbis. We were told by the national groups that a one hour lecture on a constitutional amendment on the issue of abortion. If we could get six or eight pastors to show up, then we'd be blessed. We had over 70 pastors, priests, and rabbis show up for that event.

And we also.[00:41:00] 

We let them know the truth that this was an issue of policy. This was not a party and this was not a candidate. And they would not violate their 5 0 1 status in any way. I mean, their voice should not be, you know, quieted just because of a tax free status. Once they realized they, they could speak freely from the pulpit and what was going on with amendment number four, and we needed to meet the needs of mom's dads.

These babies. We started to see the big marquees in the big churches saying, vote no. On four, the smaller churches would have all the signs out front. When it came to election day, they needed 60% in order to pass this constitutional amendment right. At the end of the, when the polls were closing and the majority of Florida, they were right over 60%.

The pan different voting an hour an [00:42:00] when mb their first under.

Closer to 60% when Santa Rosa County, which is the county where I live and where we spoke primarily at the churches throughout the elections. Yeah. When Santa Rosa came in, it was the lowest county in the entire state. 39% was a yes vote. That was enough to shift. So that shifted the total weight, correct.

Because we that the 60% correct threshold, so we were to defeat Amendment four by percent. Know they'll be maybe not in two years, but definitely in four. Is this the a u.

Not for-profits, which are working primarily through churches, which seems to be your approach is distinguished from a not for-profit, a LU Democrat liberal entity that pushes a, a preponderance [00:43:00] of their effort through through government elected officials, correct. Do you see a problem? Lemme say it differently.

If I was an elected official, I wouldn't have a problem. You approaching me politically, you would, you don't seem to do so as aggressively as ACL seems to do, not only with this issue, but several others. Fundamental problem of the abuse of not organizations trying to steer public sentiment. Well, they're trying to steer not only public sentiment, but they're trying to steer the political, the, the, the political election process.

Correct. Yeah. And so, I mean, yes, we should have 5 0 1 not-for-profit status, but it, and then when you have different pacs it gets really confusing as far as how all that works. But really, we.

A lot of that is education, that this is clearly [00:44:00] not a tissue in the 18.

First one cell stage that's genetically unique from mom, dad, and the other 8 billion people on the planet. And then that one cell divides into 4, 8, 4. And what's Amazing Cell? Something called cell differentiation, where these are. I cells after the implants into the lining of the uterus, but then one cell, they all have the same blueprints, and then one cell says, you know what?

I don't wanna be just like Eugene. I wanna do my own thing. I'm only gonna read chapter three of all these blueprints and I'm gonna start the entire cardiovascular system. Meanwhile, another cell says, I wanna do my own thing.

Cell islet. On day 18, what's gonna happen on day 19? [00:45:00] How these individual cells know what their job and their role is supposed to be, even though they have the exact same copies of DNA. That is a miracle from an amazing designer. That amazing designer is almighty God. And we don't understand how these cells know what to do.

We just can see what they know what to do. So there's not 25

you has.

30 Aus

oxygen, carbon dioxide

are. XY. So when somebody has gender dysphoria and they are identifying as a different, they [00:46:00] average will have 30 trillion that disagree with them. These people need help. They need support, they need psychological counseling, and there are. 30 genders. There are two genders. God said, let us make male and female.

And that is the fact. I'm so glad you found time to put that in there into this conversation because I'm tired of listening to 24 different sexes and all kinds of craziness. I think it, the pendulum swinging back the other.

Through your guidance the.

Stem cells can be very beneficial. You know, it depends on what the source of the stem cells are. Mm-hmm. We talked about the case at uc Davis in California, where they're actually doing spina bifida, [00:47:00] corrective surgery with stem cells. They started off with their research using stem cells that came from aborted babies.

It didn't work. So they started the high, you know, the harvest mesenchymal stem cells from placentas after a baby had already been delivered. And what's the difference? They're just different sources. I mean, when you're using stem cells coming from aborted babies, a baby died to harvest those stem cells.

Yeah. When you're taking stem cells, which came from a placenta's already.

Stem cells with a parent's permission from that placenta, but using stem cells from an aborted baby, you know, wo into them that call good evil and evil good. That's what we're seeing when it comes to abortion, where God told us to be on the alert and look out for those who call evil good and good evil.

They're.[00:48:00] 

Abort babies, those tissues to do that, that is calling evil. Good. So science is amazing.

Cure trial, CE, because doctors, especially at uc, for bifida introducing stem cells directly to the defect on baby's while it in the mb, what do you think? I think okay, good.

Toda are aborted this conversation.

Delivery. Yeah. And we actually are improving the quality of life of babies with Spina BI started actually over 25 years ago at Vanderbilt University, and they had a trial called the Mom's Trial where they were trying to [00:49:00] surgically correct spina bifida while a baby was still in the womb. And you. 25 years of a.

While they were in the womb, some of them had the surgery performed after they were on the outside of the womb. And what they have found over these 25 years is that when we take the initiative and we surgically correct spina bifida in the womb and then follow them for 25 years, the kids that had the surgery in the womb can go upstairs faster, downstairs, faster.

They have better control of their bladders, better control of their bowels. So quality. For the rest of their lives by treating them as a patient while they're in the womb. And there's something new every single [00:50:00] month on new advances to improve quality of life by treating these babies as patients in the mb.

So you're saying that the patient, the baby in the mother's womb it could be treated just like the clip we ran a little earlier on heart surgery in the fetus, correct. Is now in corollary to that would be the, the treatment of, of, of of the patient, the baby with some other ailment or mal.

Sure. While he or she was in the wound, there's a whole field called maternal fetal medicine, maternal. Medicine, which is an additional fellowship after a residency. Specifically, they're looking to have healthy moms, healthy babies. So 12 years of education wasn't enough. You can spend another three years on having healthy moms and healthy babies.

But is this a stem cell issue? I mean, could it be.[00:51:00] 

Synthesis of a product to, as an application, to the help the baby in the fetus, in the womb, you know, and that's what Dr. Diana Farmer and uc Davis are doing. They've now received over $40 million in grants on the CURE trial and, but we're now doing laser. Twins with Arnold Schwartzen. Yes. Danny DeVito. Yep.

Didn't make any sense. How can they be twins? It would make sense if you understand twin, twin transfusion syndrome. 20% of the time when twins are identical, they're sharing one placenta and sometimes just like when after they're delivered, they don't share it equally. So when we have a patient where one identical twin is, say at the 95th.

Percentile and the other identical twin is that maybe the fourth or fifth percentile, we'll send them to Texas Children's Hospital in Houston. They'll then take a camera, go through the skin of the mom into the [00:52:00] interior of the uterus. They'll map out the placenta. They'll then take a laser and literally divide that placenta into saying.

This is your side. This is your side. Now watch them for 10 days to make sure they're stable. They send them back to us in Pensacola. We follow them for the rest of the pregnancy, and we deliver them in term. They might have gone down in 99th percentile and first percentile by the time we deliver. They might be 60, 40, 70 30.

Teaching babies how to share in the womb while mom is still pregnant. I see. So there's something new every month and we'll show an animation of how that is done as well. Wow. We're talking with Dr. William Lyle. Dr. William Lyle, obstetrics and gynecology had the privilege of meeting him on my campaign trail when I was running for Congress.

We hit it off because of our pro-life position. He then expounded with me on some of the great things he's doing. First in medicine as a profession, [00:53:00] and now he's drifted, morphed into

this concern of helping moms deliver their child, their unborn child instead of the. Abortion being used. Folks www.

There, you can sign up and join the partnership with us and get on board with some of the initiatives that are underway. I was gonna say locally, it's statewide, it's Nation na, nationwide, but it's also worldwide. He's, he's opened up a network of contacts worldwide. And, and should because the abortion issue is more prominent elsewhere in the world, not just the United States.

Doctor, in our last few minutes, do you wanna talk about any specifics that we may have missed or something you wanna [00:54:00] bring out? Well, the curriculum, the curriculum is something that we work on for about a year and a half, and we. Pro have tools where they can have discussions to really defend why they're pro-life.

So we designed it for pastors, priests, and rabbis. We designed it for adults, but we also designed it for children. I mean, we wanna share this, the truth of science, the truth of the scriptures. This is a spiritual battle. So chapter eight.

Theology, ethics in the Bible, politics in the Bible, and even was the primary editor, the chief editor of the of the, and he said, this is probably the most comprehensive pro-life APS curriculum he'd ever seen. And we wanted to make sure that. Whole chapter of the scriptural basis and all the verses that we used were taken in context because you can take anything outta [00:55:00] context and use it to prove almost anything you want.

But our source, the a, is they're, so our source of truth is always gonna be scriptures inspired by God. And we sometimes when we a problem in.

Sometimes don't know the scriptures well enough to ascertain them and find them. I have one regret. What's that? I didn't meet you 30 years earlier. I wish I had folks. I have gotten built up a friendship with Dr. William Lyle. As I mentioned, he's obstetrics and the gynecology in this area, but has now gone on this, this non-profit, not for profit cause.

Prolife com. Go to the website, check it out. It'll be listed on gene valentino com, our GrassRoots TruthCast as well. And of course, if we see you in any of the social events we're at, we'll make sure you, we put you in [00:56:00] touch with Dr. Dr. Lile as well. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Thank you very much.

God bless you. God bless you too. My favorite line is not goodbye. Just see you later. I'll see you later and we'll see you later. For another episode of Gene Valentino's GrassRoots TruthCast, please make sure you subscribe and pass the word. You'll also see part of this whole prolife com interview on Newsmax.

It was a special feature on Newsmax reach recently and stored on their website as one of their special feature reports. Thanks for joining us again today as well for another episode of Gene Valentino's GrassRoots TruthCast. 

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